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clinton's infidelities. this comes after a week-long attack on former alicia machado's weight. trump incorrectly saying machado has a sex tape. secretary clinton hammered trump on this in florida on friday. >> i mean, his latest twitter meltdown is unhinged, even for him. it proves yet again that he is temperamentally unfit to be president and commander in chief. [ applause ] i have stead before and i'll say it again. a man who can be provoked by tweet should not be anywhere near the nuclear codes. >> msnbc's kristen welker with us. watching while on the trail
here, you've seen the clinton campaign the week before, trends going towards trump. then the debate, now this. your sense when you're watching the clinton campaign, a new boost of energy for her, as we saw on some of that paper there? >> reporter: there's no doubt about that, richard. you hit the nail on the head. donald trump had a lot of momentum heading into the debate and then secretary clinton really managed to get under his skin in that first debate, nome for alicia machado controversy but questioned how much money he had gotten from his father to start his business and that sort of knocked him off of his game. i think they thought it would work for the debate. i think they are even surprised that the alicia machado story has now been in the headlines six straight days, in part due to that sweet storm you mentioned. the clinton campaign having a little fun with the tweet storm, had their own which started at 3:30 last night. one clinton staffer, it's 3:20 a.m., as good a time as any to
tweet about national service. of course, national service is what secretary clinton was talking about in florida on friday. she was talking about that in part to energize the younger voters who she really needs to win the white house. getting breaking news, though, richard, i want to tell you, more signs of fresh momentum for her. the clinton campaign having its best fund-raising month so far in september, raising $154 million for the clinton campaign and the democratic party. the average donation was $56. i'll read you a little of this statement from clinton campaign manager who says donald trump promising to dump an additional $50 million of his own money into the campaign and right wing billionaires pledging millions more. we must continue to step up in order to have the resources we need to mobilize millions of voters across the country. that's the typical language you hear in one of these releases, really trying to energize supporters to donate money in this home stretch of the campaign, richard. >> not only the campaign trail, also in the coffers looking good
for the clinton campaign, at least on this october 1st. kristen welker, thank you so much on the clinton campaign. jacob rascon covering the trump campaign for us. you're in mannheim, pennsylvania, where trump speaks tonight. you were listening to what kristen was saying. trump attacking hillary clinton on marriage today. this coming after he attacked former miss universe this week, and it's not been good for him so far. what might we expect in tonight's rally? him addressing both of these topics? >> reporter: you know, kristen talked about these attacks getting under triump's skin. even some of his supporters think it's true and wish he could pivot back to issues they really want to talk about. tonight at the rally i don't know that we'll hear about that. still, even though we've heard surrogates talk about it, him talk about it in the "new york times," we still haven't heard mr. trump address this, alicia
machado or the clintons in this. this line here today is pretty incredible. hours before the rally begins, we have thousands of people in line. it goes and winds inside and outside and around the building. if i could, i want to grab one of these trump supporters here. this is barry. thanks for talking to us, barry. >> you bet. >> arguably this was not trump's best week. a he's had weeks polls show him shooting up. this week, no. what do you think? >> he's had better weeks. >> reporter: and what was it about this week? i mean, this miss universe back and forth? >> he got baited into saying things he probably shouldn't have said. >> reporter: if you were advising trump what would you tell him? how does he not get stuck on these types of things? >> keep your mouth shut. keep it simple. >> reporter: put away your phone at 3:00 in the morning? >> exactly. i don't know what he's doing up at 3:00 in the morning, but he would be ready if president,
he's right about that. probably would be awake at 3:00 in the morning. >> reporter: what do you wish he would talk more about? >> illegal immigration. >> reporter: number one for you? >> number one for me. >> reporter: barry, appreciate your time, your honesty. we're hearing a lot of the same things from trump supporters. that, to me, is a telltale sign, supportering in line sometimes ten hours before the rallies admit they wish he'd get back on topic. >> i think the man you just interviewed should be riding the bottom of our tv screen, the chyrons, banners, he simplified it very easily for us. appreciate it. earlier today we had the opportunity, staying on this very topic, byes way, we had the opportunity to speak with the miss universe paget from the 1990s and talked about the war of words from trump and machado. take a listen it is a dichotomy and bit of a paradox that in
this historic election for the first time a woman is a candidate for the major political party and could possibly become president, that this is the conversation we've had all year long about a woman's size that was in a pageant. >> joining me now, msnbc contributor and former senior adviser to george w. bush, and a pollster and professor at nyu klemp and monitoring mtv news. thank you all three, all friends here good to see you. i want to start first, before we get to the issue of alicia machado, the numbers coming in, just broken for us by kristen welker here. 150 million. that's the largest number, according to what kristen welker was telling us, an average of $56, 900,000 people, donating. is this because you think, or very obvious, her win in this past week, many pundits said? >> three things. yes. number one, debate win. number two, enthusiasm gap
obviously has been closed, i feel like. you've seen those numbers at this late stage, it's i think evidence of that. also, people understand the urgency of what's at stake here, they understand the unique throat our republic that trump represents and understand it's go vote time. >> and throw that in, what was said by the trump supporter. keep it simple. three words, very clearly, wanting trump to get away from talking about these issues, alicia machado and the weight of women. throw in the number numbers from fund-raising, seems the tide has turned? >> the tide has turned. some say it was one of the worst in modern political history. the debate. you counsple that with the twitr tirade the other night and on top of that fear people are saying, look, we may not love hillary clinton but are very fear fall of donald trump and that's exactly what her campaign has been aiming for. and she goaded him into this at the end of that debate.
he has engaged in it fully and to his detriment. you can only imagine his campaign managers are pulling their hair out saying, do not go there. as the gentleman just said, keep it simple. what are you doing up at 3:00 a.m. in the morning twittering? 14-year-old teenage boys know that and yet he's a 70-year-old man, 30 days before a presidential election tweeting about a woman's potential sex tape and her weight. it is utterly without, you know, it is without reason and it turns off the largest voting group in the united states which is women. and the second largest growing, latinos. you can't strategize this any other way except an awful, awful week for him. >> i want to play more of the interview i had, again, the former winner of miss universe, miss america, rather, and i want to get your reflection on. this is what she said. again, this is turner bell commenting on clinton bringing alicia machado to the forefront of the campaign.
take lachb. >> i understand why she did what she did. she's trying to win a presidential election and getting out information i frankly think is valuable information as a woman, i want to know how the candidates look at me. as an african-american, i want to know how they see me. >> so what she did so well here, as you saw, robert, is that she was dissecting this -- this voting group we've been talking about. the female vote. right? it is not monolithic and there are so many different ways to slice and dice it. what do you think here in terms of the affect might be for certain subgroups of that female voting group what it might be? >> well, i think it's unbelievably monumental what hillary clinton did a couple days ago. what she did, put donald trump on the defense on so many levels. on the defense with moderate republicans. on the defense with ideological conservatives out there that have issues with mr. trump on foreign toles. to your point and question, she did a brilliant job, play donald
trump's defense, or his insecurities when it comes to women. >> yeah. >> what we know. we know that donald trump really needs to win mathematically, ohio, pennsylvania, colorado, virginia and north carolina. what we also know is that moderate republican women, particularly in bucks county and the other -- but in addition to that, independent women in colorado and virginia really need to go either for donald trump or hillary clinton. so what she did was, basically said, look, at 3:00 in the morning, do you want someone that's going to be instigated by a tweet or do you want someone at 3:00 in the morning that's going to answer the call from a nuclear code perspective and able to methodically and thoughtfully answer that call at 3:00 in the morning in a very thoughtful way? what she basically did is create a wedge between the ideological conservatives out there and also the women out there. >> right. >> that al want to vote for donald trump. >> got it. >> quite frankly, can't do it. >> i want to go to you on this.
look at the women voting block, 120 million, 130 million potential voters. latino subsections we're looking at within this group and with alicia machado, that attack if you will from donald trump, that's got to be hurting. an issue of young voters, too. >> absolutely. he loses at almost every single level. doing far worse with women in fact if you compare where mitt romney was at this point in 2012. at least mitt romney was still scoring with conservative educated women. donald trump has lost them as well. he has to understand that he cannot win, and it is getting very short on time now. he tried to pivot. he tried to talk about important issues, like six weeks of maternity leave. he has a new campaign ad out with his daughter trying to appeal to working women. all of those things go by the wayside when he gets on twitter and makes these statements, fat shaming and -- shaming women. you cannot do it.
>> he is the candidate, and cannot offset what he said so far. reflect on this, all part of the conversation here as we got that from the "new york times" overnight. she's being an enabler. accusation of these problems. does that work? >> i think donald trump as far as his misogyny is pretty well know. it you're okay with it still voting for him, fine. if you're not okay with it you're not voting for him. what that sentiment is, it's a reminder how sexist it is to blame a woman for her husband's affairs. i mean, the idea that, you know, hillary clinton is somehow responsible for not keeping her man in check is incredible, and incredible that that idea persists poisonous. >> you mentioned huearlier neff nev nevada and florida. this does not bode well, latino voters. the numbers are widening. the gap is widening in, for the
advantage of hillary clinton? >> richard, this makes no political sense. it makes no moral sense whatsoever. no one knows, even republicans, they're scratching their heads why donald trump is going back to the 1990s to relitigate the past. look, this doesn't work for republicans back in '98-99 when he tried to impreach the president back then. bill clinton's numbers went up, as we know. this makes no mathematical or political sense why donald trump is doing this. it it goes back to his priorities. the man simply cannot stay on message. this is the presidency of the united states and here we are talking about bill clinton's extramarital affairs almost 20 years ago and a presidential candidate that's possibly brings this up at the next presidential debate. it doesn't make sense. >> quite surreal i think, for many watching what is happening. again, that's a quote that could have come out months and months ago. thank you all so much. >> thank you. a quick reminder about
tuesday's vice presidential debate. nonstop team coverage throughout the day. the lead up to the 9:00 p.m. face-off between mike pence and tim kaine in virginia. that will be followed by late-night coverage with other host of 18 and a night's politics. this thus right here on msnbc. next for you -- hacking the vote. an nbc news investigation that reveals election systems across the country have fallen victim to to cyber attacks. it's who u.s. officials are blaming that's raising eyebrows and fear with less than 40 days before we cast our ballots nationally.
hackers and as an nbc senior investigative correspondent, cynthia mcfadden tells us officials are pointing the finger right at russia. >> reporter: intelligence sources tell nbc news there is no doubt the russians are trying to influence the presidential election. nbc news has examined the classified materials useed by those who brief both hillary clinton and donald trump. the secret materials indicate that u.s. intelligence has drawn direct links between the russian government and hacking activity against the 2016 election. only 39 days away. according to two sources at the department of homeland security, there have been attempts to hack the election systems, in at least 20 states. >> we are doing an awful lot of work through our counterintelligence investigators to understand just what mischief is russia up to in connection with our election. >> reporter: nbc news also learned from a senior u.s. intelligence source inside a secure briefing room this summer, admiral michael rogers, director of the national
security agency, told the congressional intelligence committees, we believe potential adversaries might be leaving cyber fingerprints on our critical infrastructure, partly to convey a message that our homeland is at risk if tensions ever escalate towards military conflict. in other words, a warning from the russians. senator dianne feinstein and congressman adam schiff both leaders of the intelligence committees, issued their own warning. we have concluded that the russian intelligence agencies are making a serious and concerted effort to influence the u.s. election. this effort is intended to sew doubt about the security of our election and may well be intended to influence the outcomes of the elections. >> if we're even talking about russian influence in the election, that's a problem for people accepting the credibility of the result. >> reporter: even russia's success in creating doubt is still a long way from changing the outcome of a presidential election. cynthia mcfadsen, nbc news, new
york. joining me now, david becker, co-founder of the center for election innovation and research. david, is it just russia and what's the threat level, one to ten, if ten were the worst here? >> we don't know who might be going after the systems. it's important to define exactly what the systems are that might be at risk here. what we know from the department of homeland security and the secretary of state of homeland security is that they've, there's been roux routine attempts by cyber criminals s s access retch station data from about 20 states. that data is the kind companies or governments might hold, that's always a risk, because cyber criminals are always trying to get that kind of identity and data out there. so far none of that data that really been accessed. one state has seen that date tat accessed so far and states do routine backups of this data. >> one to ten? what do you think? >> closer to two or three. >> what's the most common weakness? achilles' heel? the hardware?
the software? what are you looking at? >> of course, anytime anything is connected to the internet that's going to make it more susceptible to attack. voter registration data is at times connected to the internet. that can be a problem. the voting machines themselves and the tabulators that tab late votes. those are never connected to the internet and in almost every case. that infrastructure is very, very secure. those machines are always kept under lock and key for, until they're being used. they're tested repeatedly. there's paper backups and paper ballots across country. four of five voters will vote on paper. >> right. >> this november. there's a lot of backups and safeties, safety checks in place. election officials are really on top of this. >> experts, like you say, ultimate goal for those doing this is not changing the outcome but creating doubt. >> that's exactly right. i think the more this is talked about, the more that voters might be concerned that their vote might not count.
what every expert who's testified on this will tell you, election officials from both parties, people who have worked in this space for 20 years like i have, they'll tell you that voters should go to the polls this november, knowing that their votes will be counted as they were cast and they can be confident in the results. >> david becker, thank you so much. >> thank you, richard. next, an eye on the storm. hurricane matthew begins to bring high tide to jamaica after slamming into colombia and now officially the strongest hurricane to hit the atlantic in nearly a decade. where it's heading and the punch it could pack after the break. don't let dust and allergens get between you and life's beautiful moments. flonase gives you more complete allergy relief. most allergy pills only control one inflammatory substance. flonase controls 6. and six is greater than one. flonase changes everything. ♪
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rand ez tracking the hurricane. also in florida? >> the southeast united states, maybe the northeast. all a question mark over the next few days and into next week with hurricane matthew. seen a wobble, now taking a turn towards the north we've been waiting. that dangerous turn towards jamaica, haiti and eventually cuba. dangerous winds. 140 miles per hour, the sustained winds. seeing higher gusts than that and move is stationary basically but picking up a northward motion over the next 12 to 24 hours. by sunday night, into monday morning, a major hurricane passing just by jamaica, haiti, even if we don't see a direct impact in terms of the strongest winds, we're talking about devastating rainfall amounts up to 25 inches, a possibility. major potential for mudslides and flash flooding and then the landfall across southeast cuba, densely populated there. potentially as a major hurricane.
when we're watching here in florida, the southeast, even the mid-atlantic, wednesday into thursday. which way will matthew turn once it emerges into the waters of the bahamas? take a curve towards the coast or head out to sea? acking computer miles. the european and north american model both taking matthew close on thursday and friday, dangerously close, way too close to comfo for comfort. we'll know more heading into the week. >> thank you very much. breaking news to tell you this hour here on msnbc. in south carolina authorities say 6-year-old jacob hall has died. jacob along with another student and a teacher were shot wednesday on the playground at their elementary school in townville, south carolina. the alleged 14-year-old attacker who has not been publicly identified is also accused of killing his father. he faces one count of murder and three counts of attempted
murder. it's not clear if the teen will now face a second murder charge after the 6-year-old's death. >> now to new fall jute from the stanford sexual assault case in california. governor jerry brown just signing two new bills in response to the national outrage emerging after former swimmer brock turner received a six month jail sentence after being convicted of sexually assaulting a woman who passed out near a trash bin. nbc's steve pietersen joins us live from los angeles and, steve, what's more about these two bills? >> reporter: good afternoon, richard. look, part of the reason why legal experts say brock turner is on probation out of jail walking around right now is that there were no sentencing guidelines on sexual assaults involving case where is the victim was unconscious. part of what the governor was trying to address here. wants to get tough on sexual assault cases by directly addressing this. facing criticisms, obviously, after the brock turner casened now putting legislation down
that would address this. over finer points. part of this would broaden the legal explanation of what rape is, including, "forced penetration of any body part with a foreign object." if you remember in the turner case, turner was accused of using a finger, which obviously came in part into the sentencing guidelines here. another part of this would eliminate the statute of limitations for criminal prosecution of rape in sexual assault and finally, obviously, the biggest one here would be removing a provision in california state law which treated sexual assault cases that involved an unconscious victim as a lesser case. obviously, turner got six months in prison for good behavior. he's out now on three months probation. a lifetime sex offender, but what this would do, make it manned other you would face state prison time. not probation, not a little jail time but state prison time for these offenses. there are people on both sides
here obviously the district attorney call it is a victory in santa clara county saying sex on college campuses is a problem. harshes penalties dlaes. others on the other side see this as mandatory minimums and obviously, factor in, look at cases involving minor drug cases, a discourage on many communities, minority communities, when you talk about other crimes. there are people on both sides of this. obviously, this is a big change for legislation in california. richard? >> nbc's steve patterson in los angeles, thanks. next, we get to a drilldown on a key battleground state. florida nap state holding one of the biggest electoral prizes on election night. right now a statistical even split between trump and clinton. what will it mean for either candidate as they try to pull ahead in the polls? using 60,000 points from my chase ink card
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welcome back. it's a tight race in florida. hillary clinton has a razor thin lead. >> i'll get sick of me. seriously thinking aut voting for my opponent, stage an intervention! >> florida is also a must-win for trump while trump's latest battle with miss universe is not helping him with hispanic voters there. the republican presidential nominee holds a strong double digit lead among white voters in the sunshine state nap is offset by the overwhelming 61% clinton has from minority voters. joining me a writer for politico and the head of the tallahassee democrat. start with this. we see alicia machado and latino voters. what's the affect in florida? >> not a big affect but the dragged on like about a week.
so eventually his stuff starts to seep into every corner of the electorate. i'd like to see polling how much and to what degree fighting with a beauty queen or former beauty queen over her weight will have, but if you look at the general pattern that donald trump has had, having a fight with judge curiel, the mexican judge, as he called him, the guy born in indiana, and now adding this complicated argument with alicia macha machado, you wonder at what point he decided to estrange or enrage a lot of hispanics groups and the like. it doesn't seem to be helpful. we don't know how much. >> and in florida, traditionally conservative, alicia machado overhang right now. what are youeeg? >> what would i think? >> yeah. >> i think that -- i think it will have an affect. it's called fat shaming, and it seems very offensive to women, and you combine that with the
efforts democrats are organizing the puerto rican community along the i-4 corridor it gives the clinton campaign -- it fits into the clinton campaign, you know, message that donald trump is anti-women. and the whole feminist angle of the clinton campaign itself. >> james, stay on that. puerto ricans, when i was down in the i-4 corridor, the get out the vote efforts, when we were out there, large percentages of those coming to sign up, puerto ricans. >> yeah. and they -- they launched, the democrats had a launch, launched an initiative yesterday along the i-4 corridor from tampa to orlando to reach out to that community and begin organizing them. they have until october 11th to register voters. at that point we'll see if they have, if the democrats have made an in-road into, you know, organizing that demographic group. >> so crucial in the i-4
corrid corridor, we report every single election. anything different you're seeing this year, james? >> there does seem to be a lack of enthusiasm for the clinton campaign here in north florida. you know, i'm more familiar with the panhandle region of the state, and i've seen more interest and enthusiasm about congressional campaigns in the past than i have seen this year for either donald trump or hillary clinton. but then again, it seems that a lot of the effort may be taking place behind the scenes and voter registrations drive. the republicans have a very efficient machine. they never dismantled their ground game from 2012. they have ten times the number of field operatives out registering voters, and they're making a giant push in that direction and the democrats are responding also. so once, we have about another week to go, and i think at that point, you know, the campaigns will know more -- we'll know more about the campaign's efforts to build a coalition. >> mark, talk about third party
candidates right now. it is close. we've been talking about it. this is florida. it's always close. are they going to be the spoiler there? how crucial will they be? >> it's always possible. obviously, the closer's election gets, the more a third party candidate has affect on the ballot. saw it in florida in 2000. we also see libertarian candidates, in this case the green party candidate i don't even know why they're polling jill stein. 2% gone to 1% in the polls. usually third party candidates poll better than they perform. people say, yeah i'm voting for gary johnson or jill stein in greater numbers than they are. generally i think, as i've seen in the polls when it become as two-way race it gives a little more advantage to hillary clinton. don't be surprised if you see a little more messaging to try to get some of these gary johnson voters and maybe the jill stein voters to come her way. >> quickly, what are you watching here? james, you know, it used to be, called that of senior citizens,
when the last five years now, the largest voting group are 18 to 34 year olds. what folks don't know. what is it you're watching this election? what data point? >> i'm going to be watching voter turnout, and the -- the vote by mail ballots go out tuesday, and early voting begins october 25th, i believe, and i think it comes down to turnout. whoever turns out their vote, their base, will probably carry florida, but it's going to be close, because it is florida. we're closely, a closely divided state and both operations -- the republican machine is a very efficient machine. it's why they have a super majority in the florida legislature. they know how to turn out their base and turn out their votes and hillary clinton is trying to keep together the obama coalition that carried the state twice, and, you know in about two weeks we'll be seeing how this plays out. >> mark caputo and james kahl, thank you for giving your
but the truth is, i'm a nice guy. i don't hold grudges against anybody. like rosie o'donnell. she said some things about me that were hurtful and untrue. i said some things about her that were mean but completely accurate. >> so we are just hours away from the season premiere of "snl" where alec baldwin makes his debut playing donald trump this time. a look how "snl" could have an impact on the election.
>> reporter: a short promotional video was all it took. fans of "saturday night live" are fired up to see alec baldwin play donald trump opposite kate mckinnon's hillary clinton. >> i -- i don't have a mean bone in my body. just ask anyone, except those close to me. >> reporter: the campaign has already given plenty of fodder to the late-night show spent decades turning politics into the punch lines for anyone seeking the highest office in the land. it all started with chevy chase playing the role of gerald ford. or nixon, carter and reagan. to more recently, bush, gore -- and obama. >> both the clinton campaign and the trump campaign are definitely going to be watching on saturday night see how their candidates are portrayed. they may not have any say how they come off, but they certainly care. >> reporter: "snl" impersonations have become
icon iconic. dana carvey the george w. bush -- ♪ not gonna do it >> reporter: and mocking the president's waistline. >> say, are you going to finish these fries? >> reporter: will ferrell's portrayal of george w. bush, summed up in one word. >> strategery. >> reporter: pointed political satire reached a new level when tina fey was brought in to play alaska governor sarah palin. >> and i can see russia from my house. >> reporter: some say the impersonation helped define palin's image among voters. >> we are not afraid to get mad in there, and work together. >> what tina fey achieved, take questions about sarah palin's readiness, gaps in her knowledge or some of the things she said in her early days as a vp nominee and really turn them into water cooler conversations. that's really where campaigns are won and lost. >> the real one?
>> reporter: though palin herself joined in the fun in a head-turning appearance with fey and baldwin -- >> live from new york, it's "saturday night"! >> reporter: this campaign has already seen both major candidates appear on "snl." hillary clinton serving up drinks as a bartender. >> donald trump. >> donald trump? isn't he the one that's like -- ah, you're all loser. >> reporter: and last november, donald trump hosted the show. >> my talent, money, oh especially my good looks. >> reporter: now with fewer than 40 days left until election day, the question is -- what is alec bald dwingbaldwin' take? >> basically something you can laugh at, a bit of ease. younger voters to be pushed away from him. >> reporter: it will all play out live in new york on "saturday night". >> reminder, check out the
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you've all received that dreaded news that someone you love, the one you love, was returning home wounded or ill or injured, and you felt isolated, unsupported for the role ahead. you weren't given any time to prepare for it or work it into your life's plan. often you've found too few resources to help you and while your voices may all sound different, you share a very similar story of struggle and resilience. >> this week on capitol hill, tom hanks, not acting or making us laugh. instead helping to help 6 million military caregivers around the world. hank is campaign chair of a push to highlight the difficult for spouses and family members, many of which are millennials left as
caregivers caring for wounded soldiers for decades. >> if you are a military caregiver, you rarely are heard of but sdv deserve or help. >> alexis suffered ptsd and a spinal cord injury an a crane fell on her head while on duty in the coast guard. her husband jason spent the next 15 years helping alexis recover along with a full-time job. it was her recovery that helped jason see a new life ahead. inspired caring for loved ones like alexis. joining me now in-studio, alexis and jason. thank you both for makinging trip to be here today. >> thanks for having us. >> start with you on this, jason. what was it like when you found this out? >> it was -- it was like
changing. it was -- it was a progression. alexis has a traumatic brain injurymong other injuries. it doesn't hit you all at once the same way as perhaps an amputation. it's a progression, an evolution to see the symptoms present themselves. >> and the role had you to take on. it's not something anybody plans for. >> you can't plan for it. you can't. it's -- i wouldn't have it any other way. alexis has been there for me 110%, and she didn't ask for this ho tap. she signed on the line to serve our country in whatever way she could and this is what happened. it's the least i can do. >> alexis, you can't plan for this either, but it sounds like you had the right person by your side. >> absolutely. we met when we were 13 and 15, and we have been partners in life, and i wouldn't have asked for anybody else to be by my
side, during this. >> how has he changed as he has taken care of you over the years? what have you seen, in his change as a caregiver? >> he was the goofy, carefree different person, and now he's grown to be the strong, amazing father, caregiver, rock. more than i -- i always saw it inside of him, but now he is everything, and everybody else sees it, the same person that i saw. even way back then, way, way back then. that's great, and, jason, to both of you, really, this is tough. and you took on the new role, and you needed his help. obviously there were great times
is what you're telling me in terms of what you learned together but also tough times. if you don't mind sharing one of those. >> i think the -- just if i could touch quickly on what alexis said. caregiving forces you to become responsible, forces you to become more organized and more regimented than you had planned on, and before this happened, i was a lot of fun. but this, i can honestly say, that this has brought out the best in me as an individual. and it's forced us to rely on each other more than i ever could have imagined, but she's also my rock. so the term caregiver implies that there's an implied hierarchy to that term. >> right. >> and -- we try really hard to avoid that. we're partners. back to what your request juque? i'm sorry. >> you answered it right on the button.
also your caregiving, too, you have two children. >> they're 13 and 11, and they are amazing young ladies, but they are partners in this family as much as they are children. you know? they have to grow up a lot more and more quick than per se the average 11 and 13-year-olds. so they're super awesome. >> i think so, too. they're here on-set for those watching in tv land. the dole foundation said, hey what we've got to do, bring some attention to this, because it's an important dynamic and you two have really shown that. hitten heroes. in this case it's your husband jason. what does the campaign is hope to do? what are some of the tools they hope to bring to families like yours? >> with a launch of a new website, i would recommend everybody who has even a passing interest check out. they're trying to come up with sort of a one-stop shop
resource. a big problem in the caregiving community is that a lot of people don't realize they're a caregiver. everyone has this -- it's implied that you're a caregiver if you're pushing a wheelchair through the v.a. hospital. that's not the case. if you are checking on a battle buddy you served with, living with a friend or relative who may have some ptsd or a brain injury or some ailments, driving somebody to the v.a. hospital for an appointment, if you are helping get a friend reenrolled in school and readjust back into life. so hiddenheroes.org is hoping to be a one-stop shop for the resources that you may need, to be able to be better for your care recipient. >> jason, and alexis, i can't thank you you enough. you are hero, both of you, for your service and for you as a caregiver. being in this family and of course your two daughters standing right off to our left. thank you all for making the trip and being here to share your story today.
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